tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post3795669428707932127..comments2023-10-18T06:11:20.421-07:00Comments on Keane Observations: Baseball Writers Elect Two to Hall of FameLargeBillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13231452147187641675noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-37681120601276055282009-01-13T01:46:00.000-08:002009-01-13T01:46:00.000-08:00Exactly, Bill People tend to vote on feelings rath...Exactly, Bill People tend to vote on feelings rather than facts.<BR/>Just like wins weigh heavier than other stats,stump speeches outweigh voting records.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08484530955432410509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-77782858259471913512009-01-12T19:25:00.000-08:002009-01-12T19:25:00.000-08:00Sully, Concur that a Hall of Famer is a Hall of...Sully,<BR/><BR/> Concur that a Hall of Famer is a Hall of Famer regardless of whether unanimous on 1st ballot or elected on 15th. Or even a mistake like Rizzuto elected through the VC. Hall of Famers are not ranked by the Hall. In is in.LargeBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231452147187641675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-59138108386698933112009-01-12T19:22:00.000-08:002009-01-12T19:22:00.000-08:00Bob, I suppose in a moment of lucidity I would ...Bob,<BR/><BR/> I suppose in a moment of lucidity I would admit that the presidency is more important than the HoF.<BR/><BR/>Sully,<BR/><BR/> I said congratulations to Jim Rice in my post. There is nothing I would attempt to do about it.<BR/><BR/> I believe Bob was not referring to coverage of the election but rather the decision of some people who to support. <BR/><BR/> I wasn't claiming that wins are 100% out of a pitchers control just that it is one of many metric to use in rating pitchers and one of which they are not in complete control. My animus is towards those who claim pitcher A pitches just well enough to lose (after a 2-1 loss) or pitcher B pitches to the score (after a 7-5 win).LargeBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231452147187641675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-71834015118460125752009-01-12T15:03:00.000-08:002009-01-12T15:03:00.000-08:00I don't 100% think that wins are out of a pitcher'...I don't 100% think that wins are out of a pitcher's control. <BR/><BR/>Pitching well enough to win usually will mean you will. I know some people (not you specifically) think wins are irrelevant because it has to do with luck.<BR/><BR/>I always like what Napoleon asked about a potential general. "Is he lucky?"<BR/><BR/>But wins can't be the end all be all for someone's candidacy either. As I wrote... 13 more wins and Blyleven is a first ballot Hall of Famer.<BR/><BR/>(Another topic... is there anything more overrated than the concept of a First Ballot Hall of Famer? You are either a Hall of Famer or you are not!!! Joe DiMaggio wasn't a First Ballot Hall of Famer. Does anyone think less of him?)Sullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10272557466790129869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-17111854344610283512009-01-12T14:58:00.000-08:002009-01-12T14:58:00.000-08:00I didn't realize election to the Hall of Fame was ...I didn't realize election to the Hall of Fame was done with more concideration (sic) than the Presidential election.<BR/><BR/>Was this year's Presidential election not given enough coverage for you? <BR/><BR/>Was it buried on page 8?Sullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10272557466790129869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-79160735666988322802009-01-12T14:57:00.001-08:002009-01-12T14:57:00.001-08:00Thanks for the link...And I don't care WHAT you th...Thanks for the link...<BR/>And I don't care WHAT you think about Jim Rice...<BR/><BR/>He's in the Hall and there is NOTHING you can do about it!!!<BR/><BR/>HA!Sullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10272557466790129869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601923053821864778.post-82746457241021526442009-01-12T14:57:00.000-08:002009-01-12T14:57:00.000-08:00Why should election to the H.O.F. be done with mor...Why should election to the H.O.F. be done with more concideration than the presidency.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08484530955432410509noreply@blogger.com